Don't Call it a Podcast... let's call it a conversation with friends, let's call this people talking, call it whatever you want, hell call it podcast if you want. Throughout my life I have met amazingly beautiful, smart, articulate people with cool information in their heads, and now I have the ability to record some of those people doing what they do so well, talking in a room to a friend.

Some of these conversations will be directed or steered a little bit, some might be timely, but mostly this recording project is just going to be unedited meandering conversations with people I respect.

This conversation picks up in the middle of a larger conversation that we were having while I was setting up and moves around a lot, but it's mostly about music, finding your zen in a room full of haters, some advice for people starting out in music, and some fun stories.

Find Charlie Wilson at www.soniczenrecords.com

Find Matt Lucas at www.themattlucas.com or www.theopenmatt.com

I hope that you enjoy it, there is some NSFW language in here so if you are offended by curse words here is your heads-up.